How have relationships Between Hospitals and
Physicians Changed?
BY ANN HALPERN
The relationship between doctors
and hospitals has always been dynamic
with opportunities for both collaboration
and conflict. “They need
each other, but they don’t always realize
they need each other,” says Jay
Weatherly of Cullman-based Salient
Health Ventures.
Years ago, hospitals didn’t provide
the beds, physicians did. “Hospitals
started out on the first or second
floor of physician offices,” says
Gary Griffin, advisor with Gary Griffin
& Associates in Gadsden. He
recalls a Pell City hospital facility
above a pharmacy.
“The pendulum has swung from
one extreme to the other,” says Thalia
Baker, CMPE, healthcare adviser
with L. Paul Kassouf & Co, P.C.
Baker says about 10 years ago
hospitals reacted to anticipated managed
care changes by buying physician
practices in an effort to increase
market share. “They thought if they
didn’t have the physician head count,
they would not get the managed care
contracts. It was great for the physicians,
tough on the hospitals.”
She says hospitals quickly realized
that managing physician practices
was totally different than managing
hospitals. Today’s hospitals
avoid owning physician practices.
“The only place you still see that is in
rural areas,” says Baker. “Those hospitals
have to find a way to put
patients in beds.”
Baker says physicians are trying
to move the services they use most to
places where they have ownership.
Could physicians again own the hospitals
one day? Only time will tell.
Besides their naturally different
viewpoints, technology, regulatory
and reimbursement issues all contribute
to increasingly strained relationships
between hospitals and doctors.
Different Perspectives
One reason for discord between
physicians and hospitals is their
unique natures. “Physicians are a lot
like professional athletes,” says
Weatherly. “They’re the stars, the
ones who bring skills to the table.
Hospitals are like the owners who
bring the stadiums and the marketing
to the table on behalf of the players.”
“A hospital that moves methodically
can seem frustratingly slow to a
specialized physician who is used to
moving rapidly,” says Steve Nyquist
of Salient Health Ventures. “It is difficult
for those two cultures to meet
on common ground. Physicians have
gotten so frustrated that they decide
to do it themselves.”
Because of their size and scope,
hospitals work from a corporate
viewpoint. “Physicians are at heart
entrepreneurs who want to run their
own businesses,” says Baker.
“Although a lot is dictated now about
how they bill for their services and
what they can do with their patients,
they can still run their business the
way they want.”
Work styles are different. “When
a physician goes to a hospital and sees
all these people in suits sitting in
meetings making decisions, he may
not be comfortable with what’s going
on,” says Baker.
Technology and Legislation
Technological advances have
increased emphasis on outpatient
treatment, which can be another
source of tension. “The shift from
the inpatient to the outpatient arena
opened opportunities for physicians
to establish those services and either
be co-owners with the hospital or to
do it themselves,” says Weatherly.
“Most of our orthopedic groups
own their own MRIs,” says Mary
Elliott, CPA with Warren Averett
Kimbrough & Marino, LLC.
Regulatory issues exacerbate the
situation. Besides dealing with
OSHA compliance, wage and hour,
Department of Labor rules, Fair
Labor Standards Act and other matters,
like all businesses, doctors and
hospitals also deal with industry-specific
regulations. Both the federal
Anti-Kickback Statute and the Stark
II Legislation deal with financial relationships
between referring physicians.
“Except for the nuclear power
industry, this is the most heavily regulated
industry in our country,” says
Jim Stroud, CPA with Warren
Averett Kimbrough & Marino, LLC.
“Some of the rules aren’t quite
fair to either hospitals or physicians,”
says Griffin. “That causes a lot of
frustration. It even causes frustration
when a physician is trying to work a
joint venture with a nonprofit hospital
vs. a for-profit hospital. A nonprofit
cannot do certain things that a
for-profit can offer to a physician.
That makes it very frustrating to the
nonprofit and to physicians.”
A new Centers for Medicare/Medicaid
Services (CMS) proposal will pay
more to physicians who are more
appropriate utilizers of care. “They’re
trying to use money to motivate correctness
of care,” says Baker. “That’s
the way to go. That’s how the world
works.”
Financial Pressures
The complexity of the current reimbursement
system puts pressure on
both physicians and hospitals. Physician revenues have been reduced by
flat or reduced reimbursements. The
days of annual increases from the
government and insurance companies
have gone. It’s not uncommon to
see reductions in fee schedules several
years in a row while expenses continue
to rise.
“Most physicians’ incomes have
stabilized and in some cases
decreased,” says Weatherly. “There
are very few professions where
incomes have stagnated over an entire
decade.” He says some physicians
have the same income in 2005 as they
did in 1995. He says efforts to redirect
that trend also have affected relationships
with hospitals.
In today’s reimbursement climate,
physicians must process people efficiently,
while making sure each one
clearly understands what’s going on
and feels they’ve received excellent care.
“There’s more and more surveillance
about the quality of care,” says
Stroud. “The government even has
pilot programs to gauge the efficiency
of medical care and in some areas
have programs to chart treatment and
preventive care.”
Griffin says Medicare payment
rates sometimes drive physicians to
provide care outside the hospital. “It’s
more expensive to provide care in the
hospital than in a physician’s office.”
Physician groups have become
larger in an effort to improve efficiency
and cut costs. “Over the past
couple of years a lot of our groups are
affiliating with multiple hospitals
instead of just one,” says Elliott. Specialty
groups may have offices at two
or three hospitals.
Managed care has contributed to
the trend for physician groups to affiliate
with more than one hospital.
“With privileges at only one hospital, a
physician may find that some third
party payors will not include you
because you don’t have privileges at
another hospital where they have a significant
contract,” explains Weatherly.
Hospitals sense disloyalty when
they see physicians dividing their
time among several campuses or
using off-campus surgery centers.
“They respond by recruiting a competing
doctor in the same specialty,”
says Stroud. “A tug-of-war starts. It
gets worse and worse until somebody
drops their end of the rope.”
Repercussions of a new doctor or
a new group will ripple through the
campus. Change occurs in surgical
schedules, use of ancillary equipment
and staffing demands. “Everybody
gets bumped around a little,” says
Stroud. “That’s part of the challenge
for a hospital administrator.”
In hopes of improving income,
many physicians seek options outside
their practices. Independent or joint
venture ownership of service facilities
is often an option. These enterprises
can spark strife. “It can get to be a
tug-of-war where the hospital perceives
that the physician has done
something disloyal,” says Stroud.
Only a few decades ago, hospitals
owned the POBs and could negotiate
deals on rent. “Today hospitals have
to charge fair market value,” says
Elliott. “They are not allowed to discount
the rent rate.”
Except in smaller communities,
hospitals are exiting the landlord
position, selling POBs. A physician
facing rent increases now has to blame
an outside landlord, not the hospital.
Newer office buildings are owned by
physicians or outside investors.
Can We Talk?
Though all these factors play a part,
poor communication may be the primary
problem. Doctors and hospitals
may be responding to perceptions
instead of facts or simply no information
at all.
“The worst is where doctors read
about what the hospital is doing in
the paper,” says Elliott. Telling the
public about major moves before
informing their doctors jeopardizes
trust and physician confidence.
Both sides have been guilty of
not communicating. “Under the
shroud of darkness, physicians are
agreeing to projects without the hospital
knowing until an announcement
is made or a sign goes up,” says
Nyquist. These projects also confuse
the community.
“Sometimes we get caught up in
the disagreements. You don’t always
hear about the common elements,”
says Griffin.
What would happen if an administrator
could get all physician
strengths pulling in the same direction?
“You can do some really powerful
stuff — change systems,
improve delivery, and get excellence
in patient care going,” says Stroud.
“You can do spectacular things that
will get lots of good publicity when
you are efficient and top-notch at
your medical care.”
This article taken from the September 2005 issue of the Birmingham Medical News.